In the debate between Mike Pence and Tim Kaine, the two vice presidents faced off stating there views and defending their presidential candidates. In this debate the clear victor was Tim Kaine as he kept Mike Pence on edge asking him questions about Donald Trump and whether or not Pence backs up Trumps actions. In response Pence tried the best he could to keep his cool and justify Trumps actions as best he could but the more he defended the more Kaine came back with questions and concerns and facts that show how much of a prune Donald J. Trump is. Trumps actions with Russia and Vladamir Putin are still unknown but the fact that his Vice President doesn't even know what has really been talked about or exchanged and how Pence and Trump don't agree with each others statement really hindered Pence's argument and trustworthiness as well as Trump's. So in the end ultimately Clinton and Kaine were really the true victors in this.